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Hi Everyone,

Although it is clear that the man who Armando met was quite extraordinary and had some texts relating to the life of Judas Iscariot which had significant accuracy to the recently discovered gospel. I was wondering whether in the book it indicates that this man himself was indeed some kind of incarnation of Judas? Or whether he was a very advanced gnostic who had investigated the life of Judas, or discovered these texts somehow?

Steve

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Hi Steve,

I've always interpreted it that the man Armando meets is actually Judas himself, in the flesh, and the author of the writings that he gives.

I recall that this is how the Gnostic teachers Samael and Rabolu both describe it.

It would require some personal investigation to really know for sure, but I definitely find this notion so fascinating.

It really creates this sense that there is more to life than meets the eye -- who knows what other spiritual beings are walking around the world on missions of their own?

What a great sense of possibility and mystery this creates. I want to explore it!

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Hi Steve and Justin,

One exchange in the book seemed to indicate indirectly that Armando's friend was indeed Judas Iscariot:

"'Listen' I (Armando) said to him. 'You are more intelligent than I am. I will give you half of what I have and of what I earn if you help me to get out of this.'

He looked at me in silence, without saying a word. I realized too late how I had hurt him. I saw how tears showed in his eyes. He went away overwhelmed by a singular sadness and when he was already at the door, he said:

'Thirty pieces of sliver...'"

How that must have hurt!

It does indeed create a great sense of possibility and mystery to realize that these spiritual beings are here right now among us as they go about their missions helping humanity. We might encounter them at any time in our every day life.

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Yes what a profound moment.

The first book of the Flight of the Feathered Serpent (the one written from Armando's perspective) is in many ways the most helpful to me sometimes.

I think it's because we can identify all too much with the narrator in his inability to really grasp what's happening around him, and feel his errors as our own, and hopefully learn from the teachings he receives.

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It is very interesting how Judas knows what Armando needs at any moment and he offers this and not what Armando thinks he needs.

Like when he is in prison and Judas doesn't do anything to set him free.
It is like when we are in a difficult situation and we want to get out, we even think how unfair it is to be there. An exit could easily be shown to us but we would loose the understanding and the self-discovery.

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Hi Guys,

To me, Armando is portraying Judas, full of desires and conflicts. Like the Judas we all carry within ourselves:
"Judas, the demon of desire, always exchanges the Lord for thirty pieces of silver- better said, for liquor, money, fame, vanity, fornication, adultery, etc." (The Great Rebellion)
I think Armando's friend would better demonstrate the inner christ, or spiritual beings, who give us what we need, instead of what we think we need, just as Armando.